02/21/2023 03:00 PM House STATE AFFAIRS
| Audio | Topic |
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| Start | |
| HB3 | |
| HB48 | |
| HB25 | |
| Adjourn |
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= bill was previously heard/scheduled
| += | HB 3 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| += | HB 48 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| += | HB 25 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| + | TELECONFERENCED |
ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE
HOUSE STATE AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE
February 21, 2023
3:02 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT
Representative Laddie Shaw, Chair
Representative Ben Carpenter
Representative Craig Johnson
Representative Jamie Allard
Representative Jennie Armstrong
Representative Andi Story
MEMBERS ABSENT
Representative Stanley Wright, Vice Chair
COMMITTEE CALENDAR
HOUSE BILL NO. 3
"An Act relating to specie as legal tender in the state; and
relating to borough and city sales and use taxes on specie."
- MOVED HB 3 OUT OF COMMITTEE
HOUSE BILL NO. 48
"An Act relating to reports from the State Commission for Human
Rights."
- MOVED CSHB 48(STA) OUT OF COMMITTEE
HOUSE BILL NO. 25
"An Act relating to eligibility for the permanent fund dividend;
and providing for an effective date."
- MOVED CSHB 25(STA) OUT OF COMMITTEE
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION
BILL: HB 3
SHORT TITLE: GOLD AND SILVER SPECIE AS LEGAL TENDER
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) MCCABE
01/19/23 (H) PREFILE RELEASED 1/9/23
01/19/23 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
01/19/23 (H) CRA, STA, FIN
01/25/23 (H) CRA REFERRAL REMOVED
01/25/23 (H) BILL REPRINTED
02/02/23 (H) STA AT 3:00 PM GRUENBERG 120
02/02/23 (H) Heard & Held
02/02/23 (H) MINUTE(STA)
02/16/23 (H) STA AT 3:00 PM GRUENBERG 120
02/16/23 (H) -- MEETING CANCELED --
02/21/23 (H) STA AT 3:00 PM GRUENBERG 120
BILL: HB 48
SHORT TITLE: HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION ANNUAL REPORT
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) PRAX
01/25/23 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
01/25/23 (H) STA
01/31/23 (H) STA AT 3:00 PM GRUENBERG 120
01/31/23 (H) Heard & Held
01/31/23 (H) MINUTE(STA)
02/16/23 (H) STA AT 3:00 PM GRUENBERG 120
02/16/23 (H) -- MEETING CANCELED --
02/21/23 (H) STA AT 3:00 PM GRUENBERG 120
BILL: HB 25
SHORT TITLE: PFD ELIGIBILITY UNIFORMED SERVICES
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) STORY
01/19/23 (H) PREFILE RELEASED 1/9/23
01/19/23 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
01/19/23 (H) STA, MLV, FIN
01/31/23 (H) STA AT 3:00 PM GRUENBERG 120
01/31/23 (H) Heard & Held
01/31/23 (H) MINUTE(STA)
02/16/23 (H) STA AT 3:00 PM GRUENBERG 120
02/16/23 (H) -- MEETING CANCELED --
02/21/23 (H) STA AT 3:00 PM GRUENBERG 120
WITNESS REGISTER
JOSH WALTON, Staff,
Representative Laddie Shaw
Alaska State Legislature
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented two zero fiscal notes for HB 3,
on behalf of Representative Shaw.
REPRESENTATIVE KEVIN MCCABE
Alaska State Legislature
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions during the hearing on HB
3, as the prime sponsor.
JOSH WALTON, Staff
Representative Laddie Shaw
Alaska State Legislature
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Provided a summary of changes in the
proposed CS for HB 48, Version B, on behalf of Representative
Shaw.
JOSH WALTON, Staff
Representative Laddie Shaw
Alaska State Legislature
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Provided a summary of changes in the
proposed CS for HB 25, Version S, on behalf of Representative
Shaw.
SETH WHITTEN, Staff
Representative Andi Story
Alaska State Legislature
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions during the hearing on
CSHB 25(STA) on behalf of Representative Story, prime sponsor.
ACTION NARRATIVE
3:02:58 PM
CHAIR LADDIE SHAW called the House State Affairs Standing
Committee meeting to order at 3:02 p.m. Representatives
Carpenter, Allard, Armstrong, Story, and Shaw were present at
the call to order. Representative C. Johnson arrived as the
meeting was in progress.
HB 3-GOLD AND SILVER SPECIE AS LEGAL TENDER
3:03:40 PM
CHAIR SHAW announced that the first order of business would be
HOUSE BILL NO. 3, "An Act relating to specie as legal tender in
the state; and relating to borough and city sales and use taxes
on specie."
3:04:14 PM
JOSH WALTON, Staff, Representative Laddie Shaw, Alaska State
Legislature, presented two zero fiscal notes for HB 3 from the
Department of Administration (DOA) and the Department of
Commerce, Community & Economic Development (DCCED).
3:05:34 PM
REPRESENTATIVE STORY shared her understanding that the bill
would not remove collectables from the sales tax. She asked
where that provision was located in the bill language.
3:06:09 PM
REPRESENTATIVE KEVIN MCCABE, Alaska State Legislature, prime
sponsor of HB 3, asked Representative Story to repeat the
question.
REPRESENTATIVE STORY restated the question. She shared her
understanding that the bill would not remove collectables from
the sales tax and asked where that provision was located in the
bill language.
REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE indicated that the collection of
numismatics was taxable under most codes. He suspected that the
provision was in the city or borough code.
REPRESENTATIVE STORY recalled asking about the potential loss of
revenue to municipalities during a previous bill hearing. She
asked whether the bill sponsor had a follow-up response.
REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE answered no. He shared that he had
contacted several different communities, of which none were
willing or able to provide a response. He shared his
understanding that sales tax data was not granularly broken down
by category, so it was impossible to decipher the impact to
municipalities. He said several states that had implemented
similar legislation reported the following fiscal notes for loss
of local revenue: Arkansas, $255,000; Tennessee, $117,000;
Maine, $27,750. He noted that after receiving two zero fiscal
notes, he felt comfortable moving forward with the legislation.
He acknowledged that the bill may have a small cost to
municipalities with a local sales tax.
3:10:19 PM
REPRESENTATIVE CARPENTER moved to report HB 3 out of committee
with individual recommendations and the accompanying fiscal
notes. There being no objection, HB 3 was reported out of the
House State Affairs Standing Committee.
3:10:40 PM
The committee took an at-ease from 3:10 p.m. to 3:14 p.m.
HB 48-HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION ANNUAL REPORT
3:14:28 PM
CHAIR SHAW announced that the next order of business would be
HOUSE BILL NO. 48, "An Act relating to reports from the State
Commission for Human Rights."
3:14:52 PM
REPRESENTATIVE CARPENTER moved to adopt the proposed committee
substitute (CS) for HB 48, Version 32-LS0285\B, Marx/Bergerud,
2/1/23, as the working document.
[There being no objection, the proposed CS for HB 48, "Version
B," was treated as adopted.]
3:15:23 PM
JOSH WALTON, Staff, Representative Laddie Shaw, Alaska State
Legislature, on behalf of Representative Shaw, provided an
explanation of changes in the proposed CS for HB 48, Version B,
which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:
The CS for HB 48 makes minor changes to AS 18.80.060
(6) like the previous version of the bill. The
original version of the bill listed May 1st at the
deadline on the Three-Year Assessment; the CS changes
it to 90 days after the convening of the legislative
session in which the report is required. It also
allows for electronic copies and requires notification
that the report is available.
Like the prior version of the bill, the CS also
changes Section2 of AS 18.80.150. It allows the Annual
Report to be available within 90 days of the convening
of the legislative session. It changes the form of the
report to electronic with notification to the
legislature that the report is available and allows
the public to access electronic copies. It also
incorporates changes by the state library to remove
them from the process of distributing hard copies of
the report.
The CS achieves the intended result the Alaska
Commission on Human Rights requested and contains the
feedback from the committee and the legislative
library. Thank you for your consideration of this
change that will enable the Commission to improve its
work.
CHAIR SHAW invited Mr. Walton to speak to the fiscal note for
the proposed legislation.
MR. WALTON confirmed that a zero fiscal note from the Office of
the Governor accompanied the legislation.
3:18:36 PM
The committee took a brief at-ease.
3:21:47 PM
REPRESENTATIVE CARPENTER noted that the attached zero fiscal
note accompanied the original version of the bill. He
anticipated that the fiscal note would remain a zero fiscal note
once it had been updated to reflect Version B.
3:22:34 PM
REPRESENTATIVE CARPENTER moved to report CSHB 48, Version 32-
LS0285\B, Marx/Bergerud, 2/1/23, out of committee with
individual recommendations and the accompanying fiscal notes.
There being no objection, CSHB 48(STA) was reported out of the
House State Affairs Standing Committee.
3:22:54 PM
The committee took a brief at-ease.
HB 25-PFD ELIGIBILITY UNIFORMED SERVICES
3:25:45 PM
CHAIR SHAW announced that the final order of business would be
HOUSE BILL NO. 25, "An Act relating to eligibility for the
permanent fund dividend; and providing for an effective date."
3:26:03 PM
REPRESENTATIVE CARPENTER moved to adopt the proposed committee
substitute (CS) for HB 25, Version 32-LS0265\S, Nauman, 2/20/23,
as the working document.
[There being no objection, the proposed CS for HB 25, "Version
S," was treated as adopted.]
3:26:25 PM
JOSH WALTON, Staff, Representative Laddie Shaw, Alaska State
Legislature, on behalf of Representative Shaw, provided an
explanation of changes in the proposed CS for HB 25, Version S,
which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:
The House State Affairs Committee Substitute for House
Bill 25 retains the provisions of the original
introduced version, while including the following
additional provisions:
• To AS 43.23.008(a), on page 2, lines 12-19: Adds an
allowable absence for an eligible individual if they
are absent from the state during the qualifying year
for the purposes of attending a vocational program
approved by the US Coast Guard that trains students
for a career in the US merchant marine.
• To AS 43.23.011, on page 4, lines 5-12: Adds a
hardship extension to the permanent fund dividend
filing deadline for an eligible individual if that
individual's parent, guardian, or other authorized
representative was unable to file on their behalf due
to a medical emergency.
CHAIR SHAW inquired about the fiscal note for the proposed
legislation.
MR. WALTON confirmed that a zero fiscal note from the Department
of Revenue (DOR) accompanied Version S.
3:29:28 PM
REPRESENTATIVE CARPENTER pointed out that the proposed
legislation would increase the number of eligible Permanent Fund
Dividend (PFD) recipients. He inquired about the impact on the
state dividend program and asked why that was not expressed in
the fiscal note.
MR. WALTON explained that the zero fiscal note reflected the
minimal IT [information technology] coding impact to the
division. He suspected that the impact on the dividend program,
due to the change in eligibility requirements, was
indeterminate.
REPRESENTATIVE C. JOHNSON concluded that the figures requested
by Representative Carpenter would be reflected in a hypothetical
"public fiscal note," should one exist. He acknowledged that
more recipients of the dividend would result in less money for
each individual; however, the changes proposed in Version S
could be implemented at zero cost to the state, which was
reflected in the fiscal note from DOR.
3:31:20 PM
SETH WHITTEN, Staff, Representative Andi Story, Alaska State
Legislature, on behalf of Representative Story, prime sponsor of
CSHB 25(STA), estimated that, should the bill pass, the
difference in individual dividend payments would amount to $6.
3:32:42 PM
REPRESENTATIVE CARPENTER moved to report CSHB 25, Version 32-
LS0265\S, Nauman, 2/20/23, out of committee with individual
recommendations and the accompanying fiscal notes. There being
no objection, CSHB 25(STA) was reported out of the House State
Affairs Standing Committee.
3:33:10 PM
The committee took a brief at-ease.
3:33:27 PM
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business before the committee, the House
State Affairs Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at [3:33]
p.m.
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| HB 48 - Summary of Changes - Version A to HSTA CS.pdf |
HSTA 2/21/2023 3:00:00 PM |
HB 48 |
| HB 48 - Work Draft 33-LS0285-B.pdf |
HSTA 2/21/2023 3:00:00 PM |
HB 48 |
| HB 25 - Work Draft 33-LS0265-S.pdf |
HSTA 2/21/2023 3:00:00 PM |
HB 25 |
| HB 25 - Summary of Changes - Version A to HSTA CS.pdf |
HSTA 2/21/2023 3:00:00 PM |
HB 25 |